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- John Jones's son, William Jones, at the time of his marriage to Jemima Williams in 1844, indicates that he was a collier (coal miner) from Llwynegrin, and that his father was John Jones, a miner. As the marriage certificate differentiates between collier and miner, we can infer that John Jones mined something other than coal. William does not indicate that his father was deceased.
Llwynegrin is located about 1 km north of Mold, adjacent to Leadmill. From this, we can infer that there used to be a lead mine nearby.
William's marriage was witnessed by Evan Jones, who is presumed, but not confirmed, to be William's brother. We don't know if Evan was older or younger than William. And entry below suggests that Evan may have been an uncle.
In various census records, William is found living in close proximity to several different mean surnamed Jones who would be the right ages to be William's brothers. They include men named John Jones, Edward Jones, James Jones, and Henry Jones. Pursuing each of their histories has proved fruitless in trying to connect them to a father named John Jones. Because of the commonness of the surname, we cannot infer relationship simply from proximity in this case.
From William's marriage record, we would hope to find a record in the 1841 census of a household near Llwynegrin headed by a John Jones born prior to 1800 who was likely a lead miner, with a son William, about age 20, and another son named Evan. No such household has been found.
The closest partial matches are the following:
1. John Jones, a collier, age 40, with wife, Catherine, age 40, residing at Sidney's Lane in Flint, with no children. Residing with them is 20 year old Joseph Burcher and his 25 year old wife, Elizabeth, and their 2 year old daughter, Jane. As ages were rounded in the 1841 census, then Elizabeth could be the daughter of John and Catherine Jones.
2. John Jones, age 50, residing at what appears to be "Odan Gate" (hard to read, first letter could also be a D or A, last letter is a w, m or n, Ddaw, Ddam, Ddan, Adaw, Adam, Adan) in Maesygroes township in Cilen parish (no such parish exists, the closest is Cilcain, west of Mold). His occupation is listed as a cursive single letter which appears to be a capital I, but could be an L or S. It appears to be short for "independent" but could also be short for "Lead Miner" or "Servant" matching others on the page. He was residing with Peter Jones, 15, male servant, John Lloyd, 60, lead miner, William Williams, 12, male servant, and Ann Williams, 15, female servant.
Three entries later at Pen Lan are Jemima Williams, 70, independent, John Jones, 80, independent. Next to them at "Erweling" (Grweling?) is Thomas Jones, 30, lead miner, and his wife Margaret, 35, and their children, Edward, 12, Elizabeth, 8, Ellis, 6, and Evan Jones, 1.
One page prior at Frith is Evan Jones, 45, lead miner, and his wife Elizabeth, 40, and their children, Daniel, 20, Peter, 15, Elizabeth, 10, and Thomas Jones, 5. Again, we cannot infer relationship from proximity.
"In 1890: "Cilcain is a very ancient village, lying beneath Moel Fammau, the highest of the Clwydian Hills. ... This village lies in the midst, and commands an extensive range, of most beautiful scenery. The cottages and farmhouses are nearly all whitewashed or coloured, and look exceedingly picturesque." (From Handy Guide to Mold and the Neighbourhood, Tweddel, 1890) Cilcain was one of the "ancient parishes" of Flintshire. It originally comprised the seven townships of Cefn, Llan (or Tre'r Llan), Llystynhunydd (or Glust), Llys y Coed, Maes y Groes, Mechlas (or Dolfechlas), and Trellyniau." (https://www.familysearch.org/en/wiki/Cilcain,_Flintshire,_Wales_Genealogy)
3. John Jones, 50, miner, residing at Gleilsin Catch (?) in Halkin parish, just northwest of Mold and west of Northrop, and his wife, Elizabeth, 50, and their children, William, 20, Robert, 15, Eleanor, 15, Charles, 14, and John Jones, 9. Also residing with them is Eleanor Jones, 55, recorded as a widow, but the word "widow" is crossed out, and Ann Jones, 85.
4. John Jones, 50, a coal miner, residing in Mold, Flintshire, Wales, with his 55 year old wife Mary.
5. In 1851, John Jones, 66, a collier (coal miner) was residing at Mount Pleasant (uncertain) in Flint with his wife, Anne, 65.
All of these are viable matches. Without additional information, it's impossible to know which, if any, of these is correct.
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Abt 1790 - UNKNOWN
